DCAU-Super Friends Crossover

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What if the senior members of the Justice League (Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Hawkgirl) were sent to the universe of the Super Friends?

How would they get home, and what would they think of that universe, and the ways that it is different from their world?

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Maybe this should be moved to Shoot the Breeze?

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the Justice League responded to fighting off several alien invasion by creating the Beta Fusion Cannon, to protect the Earth. This led the the formation of project Cadmus

the Super Friends responded to fighting off several alien invasion by creating the Justice League Planetary Force Field to protect the Earth. Since this is a defensive weapon, nothing like project Cadmus was formed.

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the Justice League started with an orbital headquarters, and later built Metro Tower in Metropolis

the Super Friends started with the Hall of Justice in Metropolis, and later built and orbital headquarters.

In both cases, the headquarters became too massive for the heroes to manage alone. The League responded by hiring staff. The Super Friends created robots under the control of the Justice League Computer, which is a full AI.

Incidentally, the actually name of the Super Friends is the Justice League of America. the Justice League will probably be confused by that, since the JLA is not working for the American government.

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Superman

Powers-wise, the SF Superman is considerably more powerful than the AU Superman. The SF Superman can break the time barrier under his own power, and move planets if he needs to. His power-levels are based on the Earth-1 Superman, whereas the AU Superman’s powers are based on the Earth-0 Superman. A fight between them would be like when the Superman of Earth-0 met the Pocket Universe Superboy. Their secret identities are essentially identical. The Fortress of Solitude is slightly different in design, mainly the entrance. The AU fortress is accessed by a hidden underwater cave. The SF fortress is accessed by using the disguised key to open a giant door. The bottle city of Kandor only exists in the SFU. Personality wise, the two Supermen are basically identical. Also, they are identical in appearance, and could easily pose as each other for a superficial examination.


Batman

Many people like to suggest that the SF Batman is less competent than the AU Batman. I do not agree. They simply have concentrated their genius in different areas. The AU Batman is a much better combatant. The SF Batman is a more than formidable fighter himself, but his fighting style is more conventional, limited to wrestling, fisticuffs, and acrobatics. The AU Batman, on the other hand, employs a wide variety of mixed martial arts in his fighting style, ranging from ninjutso to savate. On the other hand, the SF Batman is a much greater scientist. He has a much wider arsenal of bat-gadgets, including some that seem hundreds of years ahead of their time, like the bat-ray gun, bat-instant translator, and bat invisibility ray. Even his batcomputer has a full AI, unlike the AU batcomputer, which is only a highly responsive VI. The AU Batman is an able scientist, if not quite as skilled. He is, however, sometimes more practical. The SF batmobile has a ray gun and a supercomputer, but no roof, unlike it’s AU counterpart. The Batcave is hollowed out in a very different shape in each universe, although Wayne Manor looks mostly the same. The primary entrance to the SF Batcave is a slide (formally a pole) behind a sliding bookshelf in Bruce Wayne’s study. Interestingly, the AU Batman had the entrance behind that bookshelf in the past, but moved it behind the clock after the entrance was discovered by HARDAC. The two Batmen look almost the same, except that the SF Batman still has a yellow circle around his chest symbol. The biggest difference between the two of them is not skills, but personality. In the DCAU, both Batman and Robin suffered a terrible trauma as a child when their parents were murdered by criminals. They responded to this differently however. Bruce became obsessive, cold, and detached from humanity, an eternal crusader on constant vigilance. Dick still enjoys life, can still joke and flirt, while maintaining his core devotion to bringing criminal to justice. In the SF Universe, Batman and Robin both responded to their tragedies this way. The SF Batman can still joke and enjoy life beyond crimefighting. This may have something to do with their different relationships with Robin.


Robin

The SF Robin is still Dick Grayson. He and Batman never severed their relationship. He never became Nightwing, but maintained the Robin identity as he grew up just like the Earth-2 Robin did. He and Batman joined the JLA at the same time, and this increased respect may be one of the reasons he never split off and never joined the Teen Titans in this universe. If Tim Drake exists in the SFU, we have never seen his counterpart. In the DCAU, Dick and Bruce had a falling out because Robin felt he was not getting the respect he deserved as he matured. He Formed the Teen Titans, and eventual became Nightwing before settling in Bludhaven and returning to the Batfamily. He never served in the Justice League, though he may still be a member of the Titans.


Wonder Woman

The two Wonder Women are identical in appearance. Their powers are similar, but with a few key differences. The AU Wonder Woman’s magic armor lets her fly under her own power (Secret Origins). The SF Wonder Woman can fly only by using her Invisible Jet. The two Invisible Jets are very different in origins and design. The AU Wonder Woman’s plane was captured from Owlman and is stuck in its cloaked state (Crisis on Two Earths). It is flown in a conventional manner, and is heavily armed. The SF Invisible Jet has almost no weapons. It is Amazonian in design, given to Diana when she left the island, and is controlled telepathically. They each have a magic lasso that compels the person bound in it to tell the truth and obey commands. However, the SF Wonder Woman can control her lasso telepathically (Gulliver's Gigantic Goof). Their personalities are different, with the SF Wonder Woman being much less aggressive, and more philosophical than her AU counterpart. This may be an effect of their origins. The SF Wonder Woman won the right to leave Paradise Island and become the Amazon’s Champion when she passed the test of Aphrodite, against her mother’s wishes (Secret Origins of the Super Friends) (The New Original Wonder Woman). After WW2, she returned to Paradise Island for decades, before leaving again to resume the mantel of Wonder Woman (The Return of Wonder Woman) and join the JLA (The Power Pirate). The AU Wonder Woman stole the magic armor from her mother and left the island without the blessing of the gods (Secret Origins), only to be pardoned by them both years later (The Balance). The SF Wonder Woman maintains a secret identity as Lieutenant Diana Prince (The Darkseid Deception). The AU Wonder Woman is publicly known to be the ambassador for Themyscira (To Another Shore). Ironically, they both fell in love with their version of Steve Trevor (The AU Wonder Woman did so on a time travel trip in "Savage Time"), and both failed to marry him, ultimately living to see him die of old age (though the SF Wonder Woman ended up falling for his son, Steve Jr.) (The Return of Wonder Woman ).


Flash

Power-wise, these two Flashes are too close to call. In my opinion, the SF Flash is a shade more skilled in the use of his power, simple because he does more tricks with vibrations, and because he can travel through time accurately without using the Cosmic Treadmill (Secret Origins of the Super Friends). It should be noted that the SF Flash and the AU Flash are not counterparts of the same person, although they both have counterparts in each other’s universes. The SF Flash is Barry Allen, and remains Barry Allen all the way through the time of the Galactic Guardians (The Chemo-Creature). There is a Wally West, who was at one point Kid Flash, and a founding member of the Teen Titans. He had black rather than red hair, and the colors of his costume were reversed from the AU Kid Flash (The Monster Machine). What happened to him when he grew up is unknown, but I have a theory I will expound under the Teen Titans section. The AU Wally West was also Kid Flash, as we know from flashbacks (Adventures in the DC Universe #2) and from the Kid Flash exhibit in the Flash Museum (Flash and Substance), and also from the Teen Titans series, where we saw him as a later member (Lightspeed). In flashbacks he said that Barry Allen had died, and that was why he assumed the mantel of the Flash (Adventures in the DC Universe #2). However, we see Barry Allen alive much later, still working for the police department (Flash and Substance). My theory is that the Flash faked his death when Wally was old enough to take over, so that he could marry Iris. Wally is the youngest founding member of the Justice League, probably no older than Nightwing. Wally probably had not been the Flash for long when the League formed.


Green Lantern

Like Flash, the SF Green Lantern and AU Green Lantern are not counterparts of the same person. In the SF Universe, there has only ever been one Green Lantern of Earth at a time. Hal Jordan was chosen by Abin Sur to succeed him as Green Lantern of Earth (Secret Origins of the Super Friends). If there was a John Stewert or Kyle Raynor on the SF Earth, we have never met them. In the DCAU, John Stewert was Abin Sur’s deputy Green Lantern, and became the senior Green Lantern of Earth when Abin Sur died (The Return). Abin Sur chose Kyle Raynor as his successor, presumably because he was close, since we know that a counterpart of Hal Jordan does exist in the DCAU (In Brightest Day). If the AU Green Lantern met the SF Green Lantern, he probably wouldn’t be surprised, since he and Batman encountered an alternate timeline once where Hal Jordan was Green Lantern instead of John (The Once and Future Thing). The Guardians are almost the same, except the SF Guardians are pink skinned and do not have lantern symbols on their robes (Evil is as Evil Does). Their power rings appear to work exactly the same. Although it is never explicitly stated that the AU Green Lantern’s ring is vulnerable to yellow, it is implied (Starcrossed). I suspect it is simply a better-kept secret in that world.


Martian Manhunter

The SF Martian Manhunter appeared very late, in Super Powers vol. 2, although the statue of him in Super Friends #1 indicates he was a founding member of the JLA, but left when he discovered his people were alive on a new world. He probably returned years later to visit Earth and briefly rejoined the JLA at that time. The AU J'onn J'onzz was also a founder member of his League, although he does not officially go by the alias “Martian Manhunter” as far as I know. Their powers are identical, although the SF Martian has a slightly more human-looking head and face, including eyes with pupils. Since they are both shapeshifters, this is probably an indication more of a difference in personality, with the SF Manhunter not seeing himself as so separated and inhuman. Both of their versions of Mars were wiped out by alien invaders (the “Invaders” aliens in the DCAU, and presumably the Brain Creatures of Mars in the SFU). I suspect the Brain Creatures are the SF equivalent of the Invaders, since they vaguely resemble the Imperium and appear to dominate the now-lifeless Mars (Challenge of the Superfriends, "Invasion of the Brain Creatures"). The biggest difference between the two Martian Manhunters is that the SF Martians were not completely wiped out by the Brain Creatures, many refugees escaped to a new world.


Aquaman

Aquaman’s costume is completely different in each universe. The SF Aquaman has the silver age costume and short hair, while the AU Aquaman has long hair, a beard, and the modern age costume. He used to use the same costume as his SF counterpart, but changed at some point (Superman. "A Fish Story"). He also has only one hand, because he cut off the other to save his son (Justice League, "The Enemy Below"). Both are apparently King of Atlantis, although the SF Aquaman spends more time adventuring, and has an elaborate undersea base outside of Atlantis, which may suggest that the SF Atlantis is more parliamentary and requires less of his attention (Adventures of Aquaman, "Where Lurks the Fisherman"). Their powers are identical, and they were both accompanied by a version of Aqualad as a sidekick. His brother Orm exists in both universes as well, based on a reference to an SF Ocean Master in Super Friends #8.


Hawkman and Hawkgirl

This where I really get to air a fantastic theory. Thanagar never tried to invade Earth in the SFU, like it did in the DCAU. In fact, we have never even seen Thanagar in the SFU. Hawkgirl was not a founding member of JLA, Hawkman was (Justice League of America, "Between Two Armies"). When AU Shayera was sent to Earth to spy on us, she gave into her desire to do justice and used her Thanagarian powers and technology to fight crime as Hawkgirl. She became a founding member of the Justice League, and came to love and admire humanity. She reported back to the High Council that Earth should be left alone, but they ignored her advice, and the invasion occurred (Justice League, "Starcrossd"). When she was sent on her mission, she and Hro were engaged. The marriage was put off until later, and fell apart because she fell in love with Green Lantern. Hawkman is the SFU counterpart of Hro Talak. Here is how I think things happened differently. In the FSU, Hro Talak was sent to Earth instead of Shayera. Just like her, he was moved to use his Thanagarian science and powers to fight for justice as Hawkman (Hawkman, "Peril from Pluto"), and became a founding member of the JLA. In time, like her, he came to love the humans, and recommended to the High Council that they not invade Earth. Hro Talak was a high ranking general, and his words carried more weight with the council, which was why there was no Thanagarian invasion in the SFU. Later, Hro brought Shayera to Earth where she joined him as his wife, and as his partner Hawkgirl (All-New Super Friends Hour, "Space Emergency"). SF Hawkgirl never met John Stewert, and is happily married.

“Of all the sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these . . . “’It might have been.’”