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Post by kaiserleomon on May 12, 2022 17:50:38 GMT
No, Kaiser, the spoilers say it will be the last five who will act as the new Justice League during the Crisis . It was never said they would be among the dead. But as i said this is from suspicious and not always accurate sites. In any case I don't think I would be out on a limb if i predicted the "real" JLA will be back by the end of the series. I would be a little surprised if they are still dead a year from now. I would be shocked if its 2 years or longer. Yes I imagine that probably the new Justice League that will fight during the absence of the iconic heroes of the original Justice League are: New Superman / Jonathan Samuel Kent, Mighty Adam / Teth-Adam / Theo Adam , Miss Martian Manhunter / M'gann M' orzz / Megan Morse , New Batman / Timothy "Jace" Fox, New Wonder Woman / Yara Flor, New Aquaman / Kaldur'ahm/Jackson Hyde , The New Flash / Avery Ho , Green Lantern / Sojourner Mullein, Variant / Scarlett Taylor , Firestorm / Jason Rusch , Hawkman / Katar Hol , New Green Arrow / Roy Harper , The New Atom / Ryan Choi , Zachary Zatara and most likely they will be the ones who replace the Justice League in the brief period of time that it is absent . I also think that it would most likely be a rumor that the Titans would suffer more casualties although I think that during the Dark Crisis event it is inevitable that the DC Universe heroes will not suffer more deaths facing the Dark Army. Not only the Titans but other groups such as the Outsiders, the Outlaws, the Justice Society of America, the Global Guardians, the Green Lantern Corps or whatever superhero group will inevitably suffer losses from their members facing an army of villains which brings together only the most terrible enemies the heroes have ever faced. But you're also right when you say you'd be surprised if the Justice League stayed dead for more than two years. They'll probably all be back before then. |
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Post by redsycorax on May 13, 2022 0:25:25 GMT
That is, unless the Justice League of Earth-1 becomes analogous to Earth-2 in the pre-Crisis multiverse, a legacy world for a past generation of superhumans. That could mean that Earth-0 would be freed up for a new post-JLA heroic organisation. And I don't think there's going to be a gotterdammerung scenario. Nightwing, Donna Troy, Wally West, Tempest and Jon Kent are the logical successors for their mentors. They have the available expertise in metahuman service that isn't shared by younger proteges such as Robin/Damien Wayne, Cassie Sandmark, Wallace West, Jackson Hyde et al. As for the alignments of Roy Harper and Damian, it's difficult to say. I wish Hal had been the one to fall against Pariah and not John, incidentally. And that Barry Allen stays in that gilded cage AU this time.
As for any new superhero association, Kaiser, I agree that Jon would probably be Superman II, although I'm not sure Mighty Adam would be part of the lineup. He's going to have psychological issues like survivors guilt after being the only one to walk away from the confrontation against Pariah. M'gann, yes; either Dick Grayson or Tim Fox as Batman, yes; either Donna Troy or Yana Flor as Wonder Woman, yes; either Jackson Hyde or Garth as Aquaman; and there are multiple alternate suggestions for who'd be willing to step up as Green Lantern/s. Hawkman seems to be in the Justice Society, which suggests that it's the Khufu reincarnation version of Carter Hall this time and not Katar Hol. There's also the question of whether Superman II, Nightwing, Mera, Hawkman, Catwoman, Lois Lane-Kent and other offspring, widowed partners and former proteges could form the nucleus of an organisation that would be out to stop Pariah at all costs.
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Post by kaiserleomon on May 13, 2022 12:26:31 GMT
That is, unless the Justice League of Earth-1 becomes analogous to Earth-2 in the pre-Crisis multiverse, a legacy world for a past generation of superhumans. That could mean that Earth-0 would be freed up for a new post-JLA heroic organisation. And I don't think there's going to be a gotterdammerung scenario. Nightwing, Donna Troy, Wally West, Tempest and Jon Kent are the logical successors for their mentors. They have the available expertise in metahuman service that isn't shared by younger proteges such as Robin/Damien Wayne, Cassie Sandmark, Wallace West, Jackson Hyde et al. As for the alignments of Roy Harper and Damian, it's difficult to say. I wish Hal had been the one to fall against Pariah and not John, incidentally. And that Barry Allen stays in that gilded cage AU this time. As for any new superhero association, Kaiser, I agree that Jon would probably be Superman II, although I'm not sure Mighty Adam would be part of the lineup. He's going to have psychological issues like survivors guilt after being the only one to walk away from the confrontation against Pariah. M'gann, yes; either Dick Grayson or Tim Fox as Batman, yes; either Donna Troy or Yana Flor as Wonder Woman, yes; either Jackson Hyde or Garth as Aquaman; and there are multiple alternate suggestions for who'd be willing to step up as Green Lantern/s. Hawkman seems to be in the Justice Society, which suggests that it's the Khufu reincarnation version of Carter Hall this time and not Katar Hol. There's also the question of whether Superman II, Nightwing, Mera, Hawkman, Catwoman, Lois Lane-Kent and other offspring, widowed partners and former proteges could form the nucleus of an organisation that would be out to stop Pariah at all costs. Maybe I didn't think much about this idea that Earth-1 could become the repository of classic DC Comics heroes while Earth-0 would become the world occupied by the new generation of super heroic defenders of the DC Universe, as happened with Earth-2 in the DC Multiverse Pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths I think it would be kind of extreme for DC to come and kill the entire Justice League and pass the task of defending the world to a whole new generation of heroes, the public likes the Justice League from the comics they like these superheroes and superheroines the idea that DC decides to kill them all is almost inconceivable i keep thinking they will only die for a short period of time but they won't stay dead and they will eventually resurrect to save the young and inexperienced heroes of the Great Darkness I can't conceive of the DC Universe without the Justice League nor a world devoid of its greatest heroes like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman , Martian Manhunter and Hawkwoman . About the successors I imagine that Superman should be replaced by his son Jonathan Samuel Kent, I also think it would be very difficult for Teth-Adam / Theo Adam to relate without conflicts with the heirs so in that case I think an interesting choice to replace him would be Clarence Charles Batson V as Lord Shazam , J'onn J'onzz will obviously be succeeded by M'gann M'orzz / Megan Morse , Batman would have Dick Grayson as most likely successor although I didn't see any problems with the post being held by Timothy "Jace" Fox, Wonder Woman could be replaced by Donna Troy who was the first and older sidekick but I would also like it if by chance the New Wonder Woman was Yara Flor, in place of Kendra Saunders I would put Shayera Thal who is a well-known and beloved character of the fans of the cartoon Justice League Unlimited, Wally West will probably replace Barry Allen again as Hal Jordan will be the Green Lantern of the Justice League in place of John Stewart although I think in the case of Green Lantern they should put Sojourner Mullein because Hal Jordan has responsibilities leading the Green Lantern Corps and in place of Aquaman could enter Tempest / Garth or else Aqualad II / Kaldur'ahm / Jackson Hyde finally successors and heirs of the heroic legacy not missing to replace the Justice League for as long as it remains dead as the new Justice League of the DC Universe. I particularly believe that at the end of Dark Crisis the DC Multiverse will grow even more and become even more vast and with many more Earths just like Earth-1 of the Marvel Universe that became Earth-616 after the Scarlet Witch "destroyed and recreate the reality" of the Marvel Multiverse and we will have new worlds to compose the scenario of Parallel Earths of the DC Multiverse. |
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Post by reichsmark on Jul 22, 2022 19:21:33 GMT
More spoilers from Dark Crisis at San Diego Comic Con. Officially from the DC panel. First is a name change for Dark Crisis. Starting with issue 4 the "secret real name" of Dark Crisis will now be Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths. The Justice League will be back by issue 5, that's sooner than at least I expected. Also, Pariah wins and he brings back the Infinite Earths. I don't know how that effects Grant Morrisons' Multiversity but you gotta feel bad for him if it undoes everything he did.
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Post by redsycorax on Jul 23, 2022 1:45:16 GMT
Well, if there are infinite earths, then there'll be room for everyone, though. As I've said in other threads, I've never really thought the concept of the original Crisis on Infinite Earths was particularly well thought out. If the Anti-Monitor had in fact destroyed 'infinite' numbers of Earths, he would have been infinitely powerful and simply obliterated anything that stood in his way. Although I thought the restoration of the infinite Earths had already occurred after Convergence? I think this is a positive development, though. This way, all of the various DC iterations of the multiverse can be valid at the same time- the infinite Earths can co-exist with the Earths destroyed by the Anti-Monitor, the allegedly single DC universe thinks it's alone in the multiverse but isn't, the 52 Core, New 52 and Dark multiverses, which would also leave space for the Morrison Multiversity concept. It reminds me of medieval Europe before the discovery of the Americas. They weren't aware that other civilisations existed on those as yet undiscovered continents, but yes, there were, as Columbus found out in 1492. Pariah hasn't really 'won' anything. He may think he does.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Jul 23, 2022 15:23:22 GMT
I have to admit that I don't like any of the new characters as well as the originals. I think DC titles have largely been on a decline since their new 52 publishing scheme.
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