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Post by kaiserleomon on Nov 8, 2019 13:15:15 GMT
Earth-31. Global warming, mega-tsunamis, tectonic-shifts have created a post-apocalyptic world of Swashbuckler fantasy in which Pirate Ships sail the seas looting merchant ships and gallant pirate swordsmen duel for gold, fortune, women and adventure. Captain Leatherwing Capitana Felina , Robin Redblade , Capitana Diana Prince the Amazon of Sea and the crew of Pirate Ship Flying Fox formed by The Warlock Royal, First Immediate Lightning Bolt , Dave Jon Jones the Green Pirate , Arthur the Man of Sea, The Monk of Lantern Green and Steampunk Man cross the seas intrepidly going where only the greatest crew of heroes pirates could dare to go. (Note: It is a heroic fantasy world Swashbuckler as in "Pirates of the Caribbean" style with his superheroes and super heroines pirates graceful brandishing swords with challenging smiles on face running fights full of daring jugglings by the masts of the sails of pirate ships full of stunts, Mortal jumps and juggling intrepid with the swords. A world of ghost ships filled with nightmare creatures , living dead pirates, monsters of the deep ocean, and unspeakable treasures, booty of countless of pillages.)
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Post by redsycorax on Nov 8, 2019 20:45:39 GMT
There are also Teen Titan analogues as well as Robin/Dick Grayson, according to Multiversity cover art- Starfire, Beast Boy, Kid Flash, Raven and Wonder Girl also have equivalents on Earth-31. The question is, when did its accelerated climate change kick in? Judging from their outfits, I'd say around the eighteenth or early nineteenth century. And why? Perhaps there was a more comprehensive international industrial revolution on this world, not restricted to Europe and North America, but also in a Japan that never underwent closure to western influences, and Chinese, Mughal (Indian) and Ottoman Empires that readily adopted western industrial practices. Perhaps some of the African nation-states such as Ethiopia, Songhay, Mali and Dahomey might have also followed suit. The result might have been enough to tip that world over the edge in terms of anthropogenic climate change. Or, conversely, solar activity might have undergone a substantial increase during its eighteenth and early nineteenth century. In any case, climate change occurred sooner than our world. As to why Superman and Starfire are on this world, perhaps Jor-El and Lara concluded that Earth was the nearest adjacent planet which had intelligent humanoid life and Kal-El could benefit its inhabitants if sent there. Starfire may have judged that given this world's highly militarised seaways, its inhabitants could fight off any incursion from Vega.
Clearly, the standard of technology seems to be about the early twentieth century, judging from Batman's utility belt. There might be a technological development incentive necessary to combat the rising sea levels, which explains Steampunk Man. As for Luse Denglong (Green Lantern), I suspect we may be dealing with a power battery and ring that is more akin to Earth-2 Alan Scott than Hal Jordan. At some point, that lantern and ring ended up in the Chinese Empire instead of North America. Atlantean civilisation may also have been disrupted due to the geological activity, explaining Arthur the Ocean Warrior's mode of dress.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Nov 9, 2019 12:23:37 GMT
There are also Teen Titan analogues as well as Robin/Dick Grayson, according to Multiversity cover art- Starfire, Beast Boy, Kid Flash, Raven and Wonder Girl also have equivalents on Earth-31. The question is, when did its accelerated climate change kick in? Judging from their outfits, I'd say around the eighteenth or early nineteenth century. And why? Perhaps there was a more comprehensive international industrial revolution on this world, not restricted to Europe and North America, but also in a Japan that never underwent closure to western influences, and Chinese, Mughal (Indian) and Ottoman Empires that readily adopted western industrial practices. Perhaps some of the African nation-states such as Ethiopia, Songhay, Mali and Dahomey might have also followed suit. The result might have been enough to tip that world over the edge in terms of anthropogenic climate change. Or, conversely, solar activity might have undergone a substantial increase during its eighteenth and early nineteenth century. In any case, climate change occurred sooner than our world. As to why Superman and Starfire are on this world, perhaps Jor-El and Lara concluded that Earth was the nearest adjacent planet which had intelligent humanoid life and Kal-El could benefit its inhabitants if sent there. Starfire may have judged that given this world's highly militarised seaways, its inhabitants could fight off any incursion from Vega. Clearly, the standard of technology seems to be about the early twentieth century, judging from Batman's utility belt. There might be a technological development incentive necessary to combat the rising sea levels, which explains Steampunk Man. As for Luse Denglong (Green Lantern), I suspect we may be dealing with a power battery and ring that is more akin to Earth-2 Alan Scott than Hal Jordan. At some point, that lantern and ring ended up in the Chinese Empire instead of North America. Atlantean civilisation may also have been disrupted due to the geological activity, explaining Arthur the Ocean Warrior's mode of dress. Interesting to know that there are also Teen Titans counterparts with Nightwing, Starfire, Beast Boy , Kid Flash , Raven and Wonder Girl equivalents . There may also be pirate equivalents of other heroes such as : Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr. , Mary Marvel , Miss Martian , Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Green Lanterns (Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner), Flash / Barry Allen , Green Arrow, Speedy , Black Canary, Supergirl, Superboy, Power Girl , Troia , Fury / Helena Kosmatos , Elongated Man , Plastic Man , Blue Beetle , Booster Gold , Huntress , Fire , Ice , Citizen Steel , Agent Liberty , Steel / John Henry Irons , Rocket Red , Metamorpho , Crimson Fox , Doctor Fate , Zatanna , Swamp Thing , Etrigan the Demon , Blue Devil , Congorilla , Tasmanian Devil , Starman , Amazing Man , Animal Man , August General in Iron , Vixen , The Ray , Black Condor , B'Wana Beast , Mister Terrific , Tempest , Aquagirl , Orion , Big Barda , Mister Miracle , Doctor Light / Kimiyo Hoshi , Apache Chief , Black Vulcan , El Dorado , Rima the Jungle Girl , Samurai , Wonder Twins etc ? Or versions pirates of Earth Prime most terrible villains who on Earth-31 would truly be the "living terrors of the seas" equal : Lex Luthor , Bizarro, Black Adam, Parasite, Mongul, Mongal , Despero, Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz / Malefic , Sinestro , Doomsday, Mammoth , Shimmer , Lion-mane, Cheetah ( Doctor Barbara Minerva ) , Deathstroke, Ares, Circe, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Bane , Ra's al Ghul, Morgaine Le Fey, Gorilla Grodd, General Zod , Ursa , Non , Kalibak , Grayven , Lashina , Stompa ,Mad Harriet, Granny Goodness, Virman Vundabar , Kanto , Mantis , Rampage , Blockbuster , Cyborgirl / LeTonya Charles (basically she would be a female version of "Steampunk Man" using the same technology as "steamed half-golem" ), Goldface , Match , Livewire, Killer Frost, Vandal Savage , Scandal Savage , Lady Shiva, Dr. Light (Arthur Light), King Shark, Black Manta, Bizarro Supergirl , Joker, Two-Face, Clayface , Giganta, Doctor Polaris, Ultra-Humanite, Solomon Grundy, Kryptonite Man, King Snake , Tsukuri , Shadow-Thief, Prometheus, Star Sapphire ( Carol Ferris ) , Shade, Copperhead, Riddler , Fernus, Toyman, Harley Quinn, Ocean Master, Silver Banshee, Felix Faust, Lady Tala, Reverse-Flash (Professor Zoom) among others ? I confess that I had not thought much of the technological aspect of Earth-31, it is only said that the industrial activity of this world caused an ecological imbalance such that practically forced humanity to live on ocean waves in oceanic communities and made piracy practically a livelihood.Calm . I'm also not very aware of the socio-political aspects of this Multiverse Earth just know that the culture is equivalent to Earth Prime in the heyday of the Age of Pirates and that in this world superheroes resemble "Pirates of the Caribbean" versions of Earth Prime superheroes but really the cultural points you mentioned are very pertinent. Very well understood the details about the counterparts of Green Lantern, Aquaman and Cyborg I really think it's very likely that in this Earth of Multiverse the Starheart fragment that gave rise to Green Lantern Power Battery and Green Power Ring of Alan Scott's here fell into China and eventually became the property of a Chinese Monk who became the Green Lantern Eastern Pirate of this Earth of the Multiverse.The environmental imbalance that made this world ecologically destroyed most likely also impacted the ocean depths with the Atlantis civilization regressing from barbarism which explains Arthur's "Conan the Barbarian" look.And in this world the technology is basically steampunk with steam engine technology which explains that Cyborg's counterpart is a "steamed half-golem" likewise battle armor in this world is engineered by steampunk technology and the armor of Steel / John Henry Irons and Rocket Red are engine powered by steam.I think there should be no Robots, Androids, and A.Is except perhaps as conscious steam golems , magic-animated constructs and sentient magical artifacts that would perform the function of computers as well as Golems and Half-Golems of Flesh, which explains the existence of beings like Solomon Grundy and Bizarro in this Universe. There are no airplanes or jets or starships and if there are flying vehicles most likely they are magic flying ships. On the other hand sea races alike: Tritons, Mermaids, Nereids, Sirens and other mythological sea creatures of several different mythologies as well as sea monsters alike: Krakens, Sea Dragons, Leviathans must be tremendously common and known to heroes.There should be nothing "atomic" so there would be no Firestorm, Captain Atom , The Atom etc.
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Post by redsycorax on Nov 10, 2019 1:25:13 GMT
Here are my thoughts: The Marvel Family: What if instead of Shazam or the Native American shaman in Captain Thunder's case, there was a Captain Marvel analogue who derived his abilities from oceanic deities? It'd certainly fit Earth-31. Green Lantern Corps: Hmmm. There's nothing to stop the Earth-31 universe's Guardians from selecting the Green Lanterns, or a Green Lantern Corp existing here, but would any of the others have been born here? It may be the case that Luse Denglong, like Alan Scott of Earth-2, is the only Green Lantern on his world- although he may have married and produced analogues to Obsidian and Jade, in that case. In terms of increased meteorological activity on Earth-31, that makes the sort of chemical accident that led to Barry and Wally gaining their abilities more probable, and Central City is well inland, so no problems there- and as we already know Earth-31 has a Kid Flash, it may have had a Flash as well. Green Arrow and Black Canary might have their own vessel. There might be an oceanic deity or spirit cast to magical superheroes/metahumans on Earth-31 too. And I imagine that if Themiscyra was being inundated, there would be an Amazon Fleet sailing the seven seas, which would mean Wonder Woman and her associates would operate from there. The other question is whether there's a metaphysical quality called "the Blue" which would be analagous to the Green that energises Swamp Thing and other green metahumans, the Red that energies Animal Man and animal-centred metas and would therefore operate in the context of the oceans. Dirigibles and gliders might be a proposition in terms of flight, too. Overall though, I think the standard of technology we're talking about is late nineteenth century/early twentieth century. If there's enough dry land, the internal combustion engine might have been invented, but only just. The enhanced industrial revolution and consequent climate change would have caused some disruption in terms of aspects of technological development such as railroad transit, except on higher ground. Telegraphs and radio communication would also be disrupted by electromagnetic storm activity. On the other hand, there'd be no disincentives to 'soft' technologies like medical and pharmaceutical development, and the spread of tropical habitats might have had productive outcomes in terms of that area of science- but that would have to be offset against the spread of epidemic disease without checks and balances. Given that would have been the case for at least two to three hundred years, it's an open question how that would have affected the ancestry and birth of ground-based Terran metahumans.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Nov 10, 2019 13:43:24 GMT
Here are my thoughts: The Marvel Family: What if instead of Shazam or the Native American shaman in Captain Thunder's case, there was a Captain Marvel analogue who derived his abilities from oceanic deities? It'd certainly fit Earth-31. Green Lantern Corps: Hmmm. There's nothing to stop the Earth-31 universe's Guardians from selecting the Green Lanterns, or a Green Lantern Corp existing here, but would any of the others have been born here? It may be the case that Luse Denglong, like Alan Scott of Earth-2, is the only Green Lantern on his world- although he may have married and produced analogues to Obsidian and Jade, in that case. In terms of increased meteorological activity on Earth-31, that makes the sort of chemical accident that led to Barry and Wally gaining their abilities more probable, and Central City is well inland, so no problems there- and as we already know Earth-31 has a Kid Flash, it may have had a Flash as well. Green Arrow and Black Canary might have their own vessel. There might be an oceanic deity or spirit cast to magical superheroes/metahumans on Earth-31 too. And I imagine that if Themiscyra was being inundated, there would be an Amazon Fleet sailing the seven seas, which would mean Wonder Woman and her associates would operate from there. The other question is whether there's a metaphysical quality called "the Blue" which would be analagous to the Green that energises Swamp Thing and other green metahumans, the Red that energies Animal Man and animal-centred metas and would therefore operate in the context of the oceans. Dirigibles and gliders might be a proposition in terms of flight, too. Overall though, I think the standard of technology we're talking about is late nineteenth century/early twentieth century. If there's enough dry land, the internal combustion engine might have been invented, but only just. The enhanced industrial revolution and consequent climate change would have caused some disruption in terms of aspects of technological development such as railroad transit, except on higher ground. Telegraphs and radio communication would also be disrupted by electromagnetic storm activity. On the other hand, there'd be no disincentives to 'soft' technologies like medical and pharmaceutical development, and the spread of tropical habitats might have had productive outcomes in terms of that area of science- but that would have to be offset against the spread of epidemic disease without checks and balances. Given that would have been the case for at least two to three hundred years, it's an open question how that would have affected the ancestry and birth of ground-based Terran metahumans. Excellent ideas .Very well thought out and observed these your statements I think this could yield great themes for a fanfiction, focused on the Earth-31.About the "Captain Thunder Family" It's a great idea. Capitain Thunder is a classic hero who deserved to be, availed at Universe DC New 52 so using it in a fanfiction would be an act of justice with a classic superhero.His idea that he would receive his super powers comparable to those of Captain Marvel of Earth-31 ocean deities is also a fantastic idea as well as having a Family like Marvel Family.Already I think there would be absolutely nothing inherently wrong about having more than one Green Lantern besides Luse Denglong the Green Lantern Chinese monk and I think Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner could also exist in pirate versions. Perhaps each would command a vessel that would be part of a fleet of sister ships that would patrol the seas of Earth-31.About Alan Scott he may have in this Multiverse Earth become the bearer of a Green Power Battery and a Green Power Ring created from a second Starheart fragment from the two-part fragmentation of the Starheart fragment that gave rise to Green Power Battery and the Green Power Ring of Luse Denglong and Alan Scott has become a Corsair who had two sons Jade and Obsidian.I agree with your remark about the accident that would give Barry Allen and Wally West super powers.I really liked the idea that Green Arrow and Black Canary were a pair of Pirates who own their own vessel.Great this idea of Themyscira Island being flooded and the Amazons having created a fleet of Greek-like ships to sail the seas and of Wonder Woman being the Captain of one of them.I think it's very cool that you have a "God of Magic" responsible for the existence of magic and mystical entities on Earth-31.Great is your idea of the existence of "The Blue" the embodiment of the collective essence of all marine life and entities that inhabit the oceans.Excellent idea that maybe there may be Zeppelins , Dirigibles and Balloons for air transportation between continents.Similarly there could be magical stellar vessels like this one below that would transport between worlds. I agree with your arguments about technological disruption at Earth-31 nothing really prevents combustion engines, steam engines I also agree that the intense electrical activity of the storm clouds would cause an electromagnetic pulse that would make it impossible to create electrical devices, like radio, telegraph and electric motors.This idea that this would discourage the development of softer technology like medical pharmaceutical and medicines and that would lead the people to seek other solutions to deal with epidemics such as resorting to the aid of spirits and magical entities or making pacts with powerful mystical entities is also something to think about.I think the origin of the Metahumans in this Multiverse Earth would basically have been similar to Earth Prime only with their own differences and peculiarities of Earth-31.
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