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Post by johnreiter902 on May 30, 2024 0:51:59 GMT
Based on all the different times we have seen the JLA trophy room pre-crisis, what trophies do they have? I'm working on a new list, and I want to make sure I don't miss anything obscure.
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Post by redsycorax on May 30, 2024 2:34:25 GMT
When they shifted from their mountain hideaway after Snapper outed that location, were there any artefacts forgotten or left in the mountain establishment? And when the satellite was destroyed, how many artefacts were lost then? Or ended up in repositories like the Fortress of Solitude or the Batcave or on Themiscyra? Or were salvaged by the Hols' Thanagarian starship in orbit? I imagine some of them must have had priority storage status because they were reminders of particularly challenging cases.
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Post by dans on May 30, 2024 10:59:17 GMT
I think Amazo is stored somewhere? I suspect when they left the mountain, they took everything. With Superman, J'onn, and Green Lantern to scour the cave for artifacts, it seems unlikely to me that they missed anything. It does seem possible that some kind of artifact might have 'infected' the stone of the mountain, so there may be traces of them (magical 'residue', lingering radiation...) but probably nothing physical. (Hmm... suppose that some kind of magical artifact gave 'life' to the mountain, and it got lonely, and magically recreated EVERYTHING in the cave?)
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Post by johnreiter902 on May 30, 2024 13:54:16 GMT
I think Amazo is stored somewhere? I suspect when they left the mountain, they took everything. With Superman, J'onn, and Green Lantern to scour the cave for artifacts, it seems unlikely to me that they missed anything. It does seem possible that some kind of artifact might have 'infected' the stone of the mountain, so there may be traces of them (magical 'residue', lingering radiation...) but probably nothing physical. (Hmm... suppose that some kind of magical artifact gave 'life' to the mountain, and it got lonely, and magically recreated EVERYTHING in the cave?) Amazo is, I believe, no longer stored int he Satellite, but in the Fortress of Solitude.
In fact, the Demon's Three did trick Green Arrow into leaving the Bell, Jar, and Wheel behind in the cave, and replaced them with duplicates. Later, however, the Demons were defeated and the originals re-confiscated by the JLA
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Post by redsycorax on May 31, 2024 0:35:45 GMT
Except that we know from later continuity that when the satellite was destroyed, the Demons Three's containers fell back to Earth and were retrieved in 2975, when the Justice League, Justice Society and Legion of Super Heroes had their first three way team-up. At which point, they manipulated the three groups into retrieving them and warred between each other, leaving only one survivor, who was then imprisoned in the recreated JLA satellite until the end of time in Universe-One.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Jun 1, 2024 2:34:26 GMT
I know this is from a post crisis comic, but it is a picture of the original trophies room from the Secret Sanctuary, so all of them should be from pre-crisis comics. How many trophies in this room can people identify? I know some of them, but I think I will have to re-read all the 1960s Justice League comics to be sure. I could use some help
EDIT: I tried to post a picture here, but it didn't work, so I attached it in a word document
Attachments:more trophies.docx (783.29 KB)
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Post by redsycorax on Jun 3, 2024 22:25:07 GMT
It's odd that there wasn't an insert in one of the original Justice League comics depicting the Sanctuary's layout and identifying the trophies. I can still see Dr Destiny's Materioptikon and Starro the Conqueror, but I'm afraid the other ones are new to me.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Jun 4, 2024 0:40:00 GMT
It's odd that there wasn't an insert in one of the original Justice League comics depicting the Sanctuary's layout and identifying the trophies. I can still see Dr Destiny's Materioptikon and Starro the Conqueror, but I'm afraid the other ones are new to me. I think I got most of them, except the two helmets, and the weird scepter in the exhibit box net to the picture of the Tornado Tyrant. It looks very familiar, but I'm not sure from which story
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Jun 4, 2024 18:46:41 GMT
I think the helmet is Lord of Time's. Is the scepter either Queen Bee's energi-rod or the one Kanjar Ro used?
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Post by redsycorax on Jun 5, 2024 3:54:17 GMT
It seems relevant to note that most of the items we've cited thus far refer to early Justice League cases. One wonders if that meant that they stopped collecting trophies from subsequent cases at some point?
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Post by johnreiter902 on Jun 6, 2024 0:26:37 GMT
It seems relevant to note that most of the items we've cited thus far refer to early Justice League cases. One wonders if that meant that they stopped collecting trophies from subsequent cases at some point? I'm most of the way through, and I agree. I'm much more familiar with teh JLA in the 60s then in the 70s, but it does seem to me that they collected many fewer trophies during the Satellite era.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Jun 6, 2024 0:37:42 GMT
this is what I have found so far, looking at as many different pictures of the JLA trophy room in the Secret Sanctuary and the JLA Satellite (leaving out trophies I know were destroyed or removed). Amnesium Artificial Kryptonite Merlin's Crystal Ball a Mother Box Gamma Gong body-swapping statue Royal Flush Gang playing cards an exhibit of Batarangs the Bell, Jar and Wheel Despero's chess board a Green Lantern Battery Brainstorm's helmet a Starro drone Dr. Light's light-wave weapon Kantar Ro's rod Xotar's robot Dr. Destiny's Green Lantern costume Materioptikon Lord of Time's Helmet Helmets of Terrus and Aerio Horn and pipes of the Guardian of the Bell, Jar, and Wheel Kryptonite Ray Panacomputer Slave-Ship of Space Spaceman X robot Star Diamond The Maestro's pipe organ Libra's Energy Transmortifier Angellaxian probe Wheel of Misfortune chips from the wood Appellaxian Mr. Memory's bomb globe the Key's radiation rifle alien bomb alien death ray Nekron's corpse
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Post by dans on Jun 6, 2024 1:50:41 GMT
Wow - it should be against the law to put that much dangerous stuff in one place!
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Post by redsycorax on Jun 6, 2024 3:10:35 GMT
Well, one logical reason some stuff might have been redeployed elsewhere is (a) the scale of the Justice League satellite compared to their first mountain headquarters- there simply wasn't enough room, so some of the more dangerous material was safeguarded by Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman in the Fortress of Solitude, Batcave or on Themiscyra; (b) I imagine some particularly potentially dangerous material was destroyed outright; (c) the Flash may have dumped it in Earth's distant, uninhabited future if it wasn't temporally volatile (c) a Green Lantern Corps detachment might have conveyed it to remote, uninhabited space (such as one of the immense voids between groups of galaxies (d) Superman or Green Lantern threw it into a blue giant's chromosphere, incinerating it. Extrapolating somewhat, (e) Superman asks help from the LSH's Brainiac 5 to insure that some of the trophies cannot be subjected to transtemporal theft through time locking.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Jun 6, 2024 10:01:36 GMT
One funny thing I realized as I was putting this together
In Justice League of America #147, Mordru reached back through time from the 30th century to try and steal the Bell, Jar and Wheel of the JLA trophy room. He was stopped, and accidentally brought the JLA and JSA to the 30th century. But what nobody realized at the time, was that the Bell, Jar and Wheel in the trophy room at the time were fakes, planted by the Demons Three. The real talismans were still in the Justice League's old Secret Sanctuary.
I just think it's funny that everybody was going to so much trouble, fighting over a bunch of fakes. Of course, nobody knew it at the time. Still, just imagine if Mordru had actually managed to bring the phony Bell, Jar, and Wheel to the 30th century, only to find out that they were worthless to him.
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