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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 18, 2024 14:34:40 GMT
screenrant.com/dc-comics-absolute-universe-all-in-announcement-snyder-williamson/DC Comics has officially announced its new Absolute Universe line of comics, with fan-favorite Batman and Justice League writer Scott Snyder returning to the publisher to write Absolute Batman. Never fear: the Absolute Universe announcement comes alongside the news of a new "All In" DC initiative, with the central DC Universe chugging along without any reboots or retcons. Many current titles will continue all while DC launches its reimagined Absolute line, reinventing DC's superheroes in brand-new contexts. After weeks of speculation and only days before San Diego Comic Con, DC revealed its plans for the fall in a YouTube "conversation" with Snyder and fellow writer Joshua Williamson. DC Comics announced the launch of the Absolute Universe, a new world with reimagined versions of its iconic characters, which begins with the DC All In Special #1, a flip book one-shot by Snyder, Williamson, Daniel Sampere, and Wes Craig that will reveal more details about how this Universe comes to be — and how it involves both the Justice League and Darkseid. This Universe, with new titles launching fall 2024, will be inextricably tied to the main DC Universe, whose continuity will remain the same, following up on storylines begun during the Dawn of DC initiative. The DC All In initiative begins in October 2024 after DC's major summer event, Absolute Power by Mark Waid and Dan Mora, concludes with issue #4. While more Absolute books are on their way, featuring a number of top-tier creators from across the industry, DC has confirmed Snyder will be returning to Batman with Absolute Batman alongside artist Nick Dragotta.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 18, 2024 14:35:43 GMT
I would simply love to be able to see in the new Absolute Universe new and unpublished comic book titles with superheroes from the DC Universe such as: Absolute Superman, Absolute Batman, Absolute Wonder Woman, Absolute Martian Manhunter, Absolute Green Lantern, Absolute Flash, Absolute Aquaman, Absolute Hawkwoman, Absolute Justice League, Absolute Titans, Absolute Outsiders, Absolute Doom Patrol, Absolute Justice League Dark, Absolute Young Justice, Absolute Legion of Super-Heroes among the countless comic series that I would love to see receive Absolute versions. I hope that DC is successful in this comic book line and that it doesn't make the same mistakes as the Ultimate Marvel Universe and that the Absolute line has a long-lasting and successful life bringing us epic comic sagas.
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Post by redsycorax on Jul 18, 2024 22:55:01 GMT
Am I wool gathering, or does this sound a lot like Marvel's Ultimate Universe?
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Post by jonclark on Jul 19, 2024 7:45:57 GMT
Am I wool gathering, or does this sound a lot like Marvel's Ultimate Universe? The difference to me is largely that the Ultimate Universe (the first one) was less an attempt to tie the Marvel Universe together and more of letting creators develop ideas. This has more of a feel of being a corporate attempt at trying to force an event (sadly a trend at DC). Sort of the difference between Julius Schwartz in the Silver Age developing the Earth-One line up versus someone sitting down in 1955 and declaring the creation of a new Flash/Green Lantern/Hawkman.... with the success of the line taken for granted. Rather than growing this organically they are trying to create it from whole cloth. |
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 19, 2024 13:29:02 GMT
Am I wool gathering, or does this sound a lot like Marvel's Ultimate Universe? That's exactly what a DC Comics "Ultimate Marvel Universe" is all about, or at least an "attempt" to do something in the same style as the Ultimate Marvel Universe for DC Comics. |
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 19, 2024 13:32:22 GMT
Am I wool gathering, or does this sound a lot like Marvel's Ultimate Universe? The difference to me is largely that the Ultimate Universe (the first one) was less an attempt to tie the Marvel Universe together and more of letting creators develop ideas. This has more of a feel of being a corporate attempt at trying to force an event (sadly a trend at DC). Sort of the difference between Julius Schwartz in the Silver Age developing the Earth-One line up versus someone sitting down in 1955 and declaring the creation of a new Flash/Green Lantern/Hawkman.... with the success of the line taken for granted. Rather than growing this organically they are trying to create it from whole cloth. Yes, basically that's it, DC Comics in short is trying to do the same thing that Marvel tried with the first Marvel Ultimate Universe, an attempt to unify the DC Universe from the beginning and tell new stories for readers who have never seen or heard of DC characters. Comics without having to be forced to read any grand event or any specific story involving these characters. Basically creating the DC Universe from the point zero without any attempt to develop this idea originally. Basically it's much more of a corporate event (a DC Comics trend). Not that this is "bad" at all, I've always wanted to see what it would be like if DC Comics had the opportunity to create their own unique and diverse version of the Ultimate Marvel Universe and could do so without making the same mistakes that Marvel made that led to to the failure of the Ultimate Marvel Universe and could create all of DC's heroes and heroines from the same common point without having to stick so much to nine-series with all the characters nor "Crises" that threaten all creation. I hope that DC Comics is able to tell exciting stories with these characters from the Absolute line and that in doing so it doesn't make grotesque mistakes that ruin everything. |
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Post by DocQuantum on Jul 19, 2024 17:52:34 GMT
This, too, shall fail.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 19, 2024 18:42:00 GMT
It will probably fail, DocQuantum. Most projects with very ambitious comic book title proposals end up failing no matter how many fans they gain among the public. The New Universe Marvel failed, the Universe Marvel 2099 failed, the Universe MC2 failed, the Ultraverse Malibu Comics failed, the Universe DC Beyond failed, the Universe Milestone Dakota failed even though they were very cool and had fascinating proposals. |
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 19, 2024 18:42:52 GMT
But even if it fails and is canceled in a few months, I'll follow it no matter how much I hated Absolute Superman with an Emo-style hair fringe, no matter how much I abhorred Absolute Wonder Woman with a tattoo on one of her arms wielding a sword anime style of unrealistic proportions to be wielded by a normal human being, as much as I hated the Absolute Batman uniform I will read the Absolute line even if I end up deeply regretting it.
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Post by redsycorax on Jul 19, 2024 23:16:21 GMT
This all sounds a lot like Earth-Nine/the Tangent Universe, which I quite liked because of the substantive historical divergence (the Cuban War, precipitated by the Atom's recklessness) and the reimagining of some of the characters, some of which worked better than others, though- or the Stan Lee Presents universe. It'll be interesting to see if the Absolute Universe is based on a similar premise. I hope so.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 20, 2024 13:21:49 GMT
This all sounds a lot like Earth-Nine/the Tangent Universe, which I quite liked because of the substantive historical divergence (the Cuban War, precipitated by the Atom's recklessness) and the reimagining of some of the characters, some of which worked better than others, though- or the Stan Lee Presents universe. It'll be interesting to see if the Absolute Universe is based on a similar premise. I hope so. Yes . I think so too redsycorax. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the Absolute DC line as long as the writers working on this project do not make the same regrettable mistakes as the Ultimate Marvel Universe and this ends up causing the premature cancellation of the Absolute DC line of comic book titles. It can be quite interesting to read and see old characters reinterpreted in an entirely new way. I think that even though a DC Comics version of the Ultimate Marvel Universe is not new, it can undoubtedly yield fascinating stories and without a doubt I will follow it even if it doesn't last and ends up being canceled in the same way that the Ultimate Marvel Universe was. |
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 20, 2024 13:22:36 GMT
There are many things that would be fascinating to see appear in the DC Absolute Universe, such as: an Absolute Supergirl, an Absolute Superboy, an Absolute Steel, an Absolute Shazam, an Absolute Firestorm, an Absolute Captain Atom, an Absolute Blue Beetle, an Absolute Nightshade, an Absolute Lobo, an Absolute Batgirl, an Absolute Batwoman, an Absolute Huntress, an Absolute Nightwing, an Absolute Red Hood, an Absolute Red Robin, an Absolute The Question, an Absolute Green Arrow, an Absolute Black Canary, an Absolute Doctor Fate, an Absolute Vixen, an Absolute Animal Man, an Absolute Swamp Thing, an Absolute Black Orchid, an Absolte Phantom Stranger, an Absolute Etrigan the Demon, an Absolute John Constantine, an Absolute Deadman, an Absolute Spectre, an Absolute Justice Society of America, an Absolute Justice League International, an Absolute L.E.G.I.O.N. , I'm simply going to love seeing which comic book series the Universe DC Absolute will have and which characters will be reinvented by receiving Absolute versions. I think it will be very cool.
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Post by redsycorax on Jul 22, 2024 4:18:34 GMT
From what I've read, the Absolute Universe used to be known as Earth-Omega in a previous iteration of the DC multiverse. On that Earth, Darkseid won temporarily, although he seems to have been evicted at some point since its existence was disclosed. However, his domination seems to have been long term despite that, with some consequences for Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. This Earth's Batman doesn't have Bruce Wayne's mansion, inherited corporate wealth or an Alfred or Robin to assist him. This Earth's Wonder Woman doesn't know she's an Amazon, doesn't come from Themiscyra originally, and is rougher than the Princess Diana we know. This Earth's Superman had no adoptive parents and therefore presumably has never been Clark Kent. I don't know if this Earth does have any other superheroes or the usual ensemble that the iconic three characters in question have. It's more a back-to-basics approach. It'll be interesting to get more background as the storyline unfolds.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 22, 2024 13:11:30 GMT
From what I've read, the Absolute Universe used to be known as Earth-Omega in a previous iteration of the DC multiverse. On that Earth, Darkseid won temporarily, although he seems to have been evicted at some point since its existence was disclosed. However, his domination seems to have been long term despite that, with some consequences for Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. This Earth's Batman doesn't have Bruce Wayne's mansion, inherited corporate wealth or an Alfred or Robin to assist him. This Earth's Wonder Woman doesn't know she's an Amazon, doesn't come from Themiscyra originally, and is rougher than the Princess Diana we know. This Earth's Superman had no adoptive parents and therefore presumably has never been Clark Kent. I don't know if this Earth does have any other superheroes or the usual ensemble that the iconic three characters in question have. It's more a back-to-basics approach. It'll be interesting to get more background as the storyline unfolds. Interesting to know these facts redsycorax ! It could be very interesting to see what the superheroes of this Earth-Omega would be like and the effects of Darkseid's domination over this world of the Multiverse (assuming that Earth-Omega is part of the DC Multiverse and not an independent world of this one that exists apart from Multiverse) and about the trinity of DC heroes. It would be really cool to see Batman making do with what he has without counting on the wealth of Bruce Wayne and Wayne Enterprises to fight crime or having the support of any Robin or having Alfred the Butler to support him by being a more crime fighter " street level" that makes do with the resources at hand. It would also be interesting to see the deadliest and most violent Wonder Woman disconnected from her origins as an Amazon Demigoddess, fighting for the women of the world in a more human context. And finally, it would be interesting to see Superman without any kind of moral relationship with earthly humanity such as human adoptive parents or an entire life lived as a human child. I think it should be more or less the same way that in the Ultimate Marvel Universe the appearance of these three heroes should motivate the appearance of all the others with origins very different from the heroes of the Earth-1. |
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Post by kaiserleomon on Jul 22, 2024 13:36:24 GMT
It would also be more interesting to see the other superheroes who are members of the Justice League appear during the adventures of these three heroes and have their origins immensely changed into more proactive and different characters from what we are used to knowing. Like a Martian Manhunter who would be completely alien and without any type of emotional connection with the human race. An Aquaman who would not be the King of Atlantis nor would he know his origin, looking much more like a total stranger in the surface world who does not understand human beings, who for him are "strange", "clumsy" and "very ugly" beings. A Flash who would be adapting to his super speedster powers and for whom super speed would be both a gift and a curse. A Green Lantern who would not know that he belongs to an interplanetary police force would not be an intrepid aviation test pilot and who would not fully understand the full extent of his powers given by the strange alien artifact he possesses. And so respectively with Firestorm, The Atom, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Vixen, Zatanna, The Elongated Man etc. with new and reinterpreted origins for the current times of the new reality in which they live.
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