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Post by dans on Aug 22, 2020 13:15:22 GMT
Hey, Lib, do Carol and Dan have a specific city where they are located? They keep hanging around with that sea captain, Lance O'Casey, and I get the feeling that he cruises the South Pacific a lot - so maybe they have set up in Southern California somewhere?
Have they re-established Dare's detective agency? Do you have a name for the agency in mind? I am not having much luck finding the 40s name...
Dan was first active in 1940 apparently, so he and Carol are probably in their mid 20s when they are trapped in the magical time stop spell? Does that seem right?
It just occurred to me - the spell that trapped them actually misfired - it was not supposed to trap people for years. So there could be unexpected side effects. (For example, she and Dan might have been de-aged, they might have had dreams while trapped, they might be unusually susceptible to magic now, etc)
Edit - Say, does anyone know if Dan had a name for his plane? It must have been very expensive - more than once it was stated that it could go 300 mph. I've been looking at late 1930s aircraft, and it actually must have been a military model to have that kind of speed... anyway, every person I know who owns an airplane has named his or her plane.
Thanks!
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Aug 22, 2020 18:53:02 GMT
I think you are right regarding their ages and that they did reopen the agency but I am not sure where it is located. I like your idea about their possible new limitations or potentialities due to the time spell. I was thinking that Dare Detective Agency was the name of the business but I don't recall any plane to be honest so I could see you picking anything.
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Post by redsycorax on Aug 23, 2020 2:49:27 GMT
Interestingly enough, there's another, probably better known Dan Dare, who was a British Spacefleet astronaut whose adventures were set in the nineties: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Dare
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Post by dans on Aug 23, 2020 12:01:51 GMT
I saw his bio when I looked up the Fawcett one. Perhaps one of the side effects of the spell that captured Dan and Carol was that a magical clone of Dan was created, then thrust into the future and into a different universe?
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Post by redsycorax on Aug 24, 2020 1:06:24 GMT
Or it could be the offspring of the original, having been brought up in the United Kingdom? Or his nephew? Or an alternate universe version? Venus-S is inhabited, unlike its analogue in our own universe, as well in Dan Dare UK's continuity, albeit by two warring humanoid species, the Therons and Treens. Dare UK's archnemesis is the Mekon, the overthrown Treen dictator, but his greatest ally is Solovar, the president of Treenland. The United Kingdom is a spacefaring superpower in this universe as well.
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Post by dans on Aug 24, 2020 20:28:50 GMT
I was kidding, mostly. No reason for these guys to be related at all...
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Post by dans on Aug 25, 2020 1:01:47 GMT
Does it sound reasonable that maybe Carol or Dan might have invested a couple of thousand bucks in Dow Chemical stock in the early 1940s? They were highly paid for flying all over the country; they were never home for vacations, and they must have done something with their money. Maybe Carol opened one of these chests a while ago and discovered some stock certificates, which is how they are paying for their current housing and their new office...
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Aug 25, 2020 13:50:13 GMT
I could see her doing something like that since she dealt with the day to day matters more than Dan.
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Post by dans on Sept 1, 2020 23:37:07 GMT
So. Lib, I used x-girls scene maker (http://www.starsue.net/game/X-Girl-Scene-Maker.html), some views of Carol from online editions of Whiz Comics, and your description in "Shazam’s Squadron of Justice: Voyagers, Chapter 1: Bright Lights, Dark Shadows" to create this. I'm not totally happy with the cape, but what do you think?
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 2, 2020 18:30:06 GMT
I like it. Very nicely done. I think she would like a cape.
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Post by dans on Sept 3, 2020 2:00:25 GMT
You gave her the cape in Shazam’s Squadron of Justice: Voyagers, Chapter 1: Bright Lights, Dark Shadows"They looked up to see a gorgeous woman with blonde curls, perfect makeup, and a short yellow miniskirted costume and cape."
I was thinking a smaller cape that attaches to the shoulders of the costume rather than wrapping around, more like what Phantom Girl used to wear in the 60s, but the game didn't provide that option, so I picked the smallest one possible.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 3, 2020 13:24:24 GMT
I like what you did. I also like your story so far.
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Post by DocQuantum on Sept 4, 2020 14:53:45 GMT
So. Lib, I used x-girls scene maker (http://www.starsue.net/game/X-Girl-Scene-Maker.html), some views of Carol from online editions of Whiz Comics, and your description in "Shazam’s Squadron of Justice: Voyagers, Chapter 1: Bright Lights, Dark Shadows" to create this. I'm not totally happy with the cape, but what do you think?
Okay, so someone has to make a comment at some point early on after she adopts this costume with a bare midriff how scandalous it would've been in the 1940s -- heck, even in the 1980s it would've been scandalous! Is Carol interested in protecting her secret identity? Perhaps this might explain why she chose so "modern" a costume in the first place, so nobody would think that a 1940s gal like her would ever don a costume that looks like something only a young, liberated modern woman would wear. Also, there's the Phantom Lady explanation for a revealing costume -- it distracts the crooks momentarily enough to give her a slight advantage, at least in theory.
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Post by dans on Sept 4, 2020 16:28:02 GMT
So the issue is the open midrif? Bulletgirl and Mary Marvel are Carol's early 40s super heroine role models. Bulletgirl wore hotpants (cover of Bulletman #3), and Mary's skirt wasn't much longer than the skirt Sunbeam is wearing above (covers of Wow comics #10 or #11).
I don't see the costume as particularly scandalous in either era. Particularly for a DC heroine - what were Supergirl and Power Girl wearing in the 80s? Or Jade and Arisia? There aren't a lot of Earth S heroines in the 80s to emulate - but Carol has been shown to be pretty liberated anyway, in the stories that precede this one (Castaways, Cruisin' and the Squadron of Justice story). I think she is probably making a statement.
I was actually thinking of pasting an icon of the sun over her belly button, similar to Sun Boy's chest symbol, but only yellow, no red, but haven't gotten around to going back to artwork yet.
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Post by DocQuantum on Sept 4, 2020 17:49:48 GMT
I have no problem with the costume, but the 1940s was a different era. Bikini bathing suits were rare, especially in America. It was a different time. It would be strange if nobody commented on that aspect at all in regards to her costume.
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