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Post by dans on Oct 11, 2020 11:32:39 GMT
Superboy needs to go faster than light to break the time barrier. Sometimes he has carried passengers in bubbles with him through time. So, just suppose he feels he can safely accelerate at 4 gravities while carrying a passenger without squishing her to death. Equations are:
ignoring relativity
v(f) = a * t (v(f) in ft/sec, a in ft/sec^2, t in sec)
so time t = v(f) / a
Sorry, I got the math wrong. It would take longer than that ( 60 days) at 4g acceleration penned up in a glass bubble, usually around 9 to 10 feet in diameter and empty of anything other than the single occupant. No food, not even a toilet...
Maybe when he flies Superboy is surrounded by a field that makes whatever he is carrying immune to the effects of acceleration?
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Post by johnreiter902 on Oct 11, 2020 12:42:43 GMT
Usually, Superman wraps his passengers in his indestructible cape, to protect them from the acceleration.
most stories seem to suggest that superman's indestructible clothing have some ability to shed force, as well as being unbreakable. For example, in one issue of World's Finest, Superman temporarily lost his powers, but when a criminal shot him, the bullets bounced off his costume without harming him. He should have at least been badly bruised.
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 11, 2020 19:53:43 GMT
Red Tornado can travel through time, too. And each of the Flashes.
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Post by dans on Oct 11, 2020 20:33:13 GMT
I don't know how Red Tornado travels through time. But the Flashes do not accelerate to the speed of light, I think they use internal vibrations or something, and they stay in one place on the Cosmic Treadmill. And they don't generally carry anyone with them.
I'm just saying that any acceleration that will reach light speed in a reasonable amount of time (ignoring relativity, btw, because comic books do) is going to kill a normal human being. squished flatter than a pancake...
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 11, 2020 20:39:38 GMT
Time travel by the Flash (both Barry Allen and Jay Garrick in the Golden Age) predates the existence of the Cosmic Treadmill, which I think just made the process easier.
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 11, 2020 20:40:59 GMT
From what I understand, the Red Tornado can control his internal vibrations precisely enough to not only travel in time but also to other universes.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Oct 11, 2020 21:12:08 GMT
This is off topic but Red Tornado really deserves a solo story or two.
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 11, 2020 21:30:08 GMT
Agreed. It's been a while since he's starred in any stories except as a JLA team member.
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Post by redsycorax on Oct 11, 2020 22:53:20 GMT
Flash Fact: The cosmic treadmill was first used by Barry Allen in Flash 125 (December 1961).
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Post by johnreiter902 on Oct 12, 2020 1:22:03 GMT
In my own time travel story, I indicated that the "time stream" is really another dimension, which time-travelers use to travel through time.
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 12, 2020 1:28:44 GMT
From what I understand, the Red Tornado can control his internal vibrations precisely enough to not only travel in time but also to other universes. Though I should note that it's not clear whether Red Tornado's ability to travel through time is solely done through his android body, or whether his status as an elemental is what causes it. It's actually a scary thought if the Red Tornado's android body was duplicated, and all of his duplicates could also travel through time. That could lead to some VERY bad results very quickly.
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Post by redsycorax on Oct 12, 2020 1:34:03 GMT
It also makes one wonder why T.O.Morrow didn't have that very idea, or construct more amenable androids after Red Tornado.
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Post by arcademan on Oct 12, 2020 2:40:23 GMT
From what I understand, the Red Tornado can control his internal vibrations precisely enough to not only travel in time but also to other universes. Though I should note that it's not clear whether Red Tornado's ability to travel through time is solely done through his android body, or whether his status as an elemental is what causes it. It's actually a scary thought if the Red Tornado's android body was duplicated, and all of his duplicates could also travel through time. That could lead to some VERY bad results very quickly. I would go with the notion that if the Red Tornado could time travel, it would be due to the powers of the Tornado Champion residing within himself...and most likely the elemental Tornado couldn't travel itself through time without the protective android shell of Red. The combination of the two can do what each other could not individually do. Remember T.O. Morrow tried to figure out what made Red Tornado unique since his replications of his android forms were not on par due to the existence of the elemental inside him. As far as duplicating an army of time-travelling androids? Capture the tornado Champion and have the androids absorb a portion of its being to give each one limited abilities to travel through time with restrictions. That would be the best way to accomplish this without over abusing the power to go through time in my opinion.
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